There's really no thriving hip-hop scene in London – there is, but UK hip-hop. There's no kind of big, thriving American hip-hop scene in the UK, so I hadn't experienced that. But then all the sudden it clicked for me that Jay-Z and Kanye West aren't pop stars. They may be perceived as pop stars because of the kind of streams of media where I came across their music. But actually being in New York made me think I had the complete wrong end of the stick. So then I completely went for it at that point. I think it's cool. It's things like that that make me more interested in working with loads of other artists. But it's like the idea of, like, say David Guetta came up to me and was like, “Do you want to do a dubstep track?” – I kind of know what David Guetta is, and he's really good at doing that. But it's never really been my thing. If I happen to be in a club and someone's playing a David Guetta track, and this emotion surges out of me, and I'm with the people getting really into, then I'll make the phone call like “can we please do this?”
But I kind of have to experience something for myself. Otherwise it just kind of seems like pop. Which may be what you're talking about with dubstep artists beginning to be like pop stars because maybe that's how we can look to some people. But then you've got to just come inside and actually experience it for yourself and really feel what it's all about.
No, no, I was just thinking, actually thinking about it. And the idea of a DJ being deemed as a pop star. I suppose if I made the track and then it got in the charts somewhere and I've never played any shows there then everyone would think that I was a pop star. It'd be the exact same thing as what I did with Jay-Z and Kanye West, which is kind of an interesting thought. It's not something you really think about when you're sitting in your bedroom writing music.
How long ago did you start making electronic music?
Probably about seven years ago.
It's interesting that you're pretty young, and Skrillex is pretty young – he's also 23, right?
He's 24, but we've got the same birthday. January 15.
I guess that's the magic day if you want to be a dubstep producer.
Yeah. It's annoying that he's 24 because if he was 23 then we would be the same age, born on the same day, and I'm from the UK, he's from the States. It would have been a lot more powerful, I think, that fact.
It's cool that dubstep is a pretty new genre and the people making it are pretty young people. Where do you see it going in the future? Any idea where, career-wise, you could see yourself going?
I think – because I just kind of made all my tracks in my bedroom and then started post them up online, and that's what the majority of the dubstep community was doing – I think whatever the kids in their bedrooms are making and posting online will be what it is. There's no way to possibly predict. No one could have predicted two years ago that dubstep would be doing this, so it'd be silly to try to predict something else. I think it's all in the hands of the producers now, pretty much in the hands of the kids making music and whatever they make. And if it's good then everyone will like it.
Is there anything culturally here in the U.S. that's really weird to you? Food or anything?
There's salt on everything. Literally salt on everything I come across. I could lick a tree and it would be covered in salt, I swear. That's the main cultural difference, oddly enough. Americans say that English food is bland, but that's because we use like ten percent of the salt that you do.